£3K MORE
i took the £3k in shares that i had in advance from the money i would use for furniture etc. i lost it all on £25/£50. here's my final hand. playing a £4.2k stack i raise on the cutoff with AQo. £2k stack behind me calls my £150 bet. folded to bb who has me covered. he makes it £550. i call as does the player behind me. flop A94. pre-flop re-raiser bets £1k out. must be AK but i call anyway and the player behind me passes. turn is a 4. pot £3673 and i have £2600 left. he checks and i check behind. the river is a 9 and he waits for a couple of seconds then pushes. i really feel like he has AK here and use up all the time before eventually calling because i'm not good enough to pass. he could well have been on tilt at the time as he had lost several £k so it's possible he's bluffing but i think it's unlikely since i called his bet on the flop. anyway he had J4 for the house. i got a few hundred £ left which i'll gamble tomorrow or soon.
posted by Ed Hollis at 5:51 PM
21 Comments:
Ed mate
I know a place you should be going along to, it's called Gambler's Anonymous. Plenty have gone down this route & ended up bankrupt, homeless, in prison or even dead! Don't let yourself be one of those cos you sound like a good guy. Plenty bigger thrills out there in life than the poker table :-)
this is getting depressing now.
I would wish you luck Ed but in all honesty i don't want you to succeed because if you do then the only reason is luck and that will just breed more gambling and more problems.
Ed,
Stop kidding yourself, you will take all the house money and will spunk it away as you just have to play...Its a shame because Im sure you could be a winning player should you so wish!
Dom
http://www.dominicspokerwereld.com
how are you not raising the flop bet to 2.8k??
the mind boggles
Am I the only one who would have folded AQ to the pre-flop re-raise when sandwiched between the re-raiser and the other caller? I'm such a wuss.
AQ is a 4-bet or fold IMHO. It's near impossible to win a big pot with it but you can certainly lose a big pot + most of the other small/medium ones as well. If Ed had 78s here then, yeah, you can call but AQ is a fold if villains 3-bet range is tight or a 4-bet if he's loose with his 3-bet and especially if he's the sort of player that would fold an 88-JJ sort of hand to a 4-bet/push.
Flop is a single way-ahead or way-behind (WA/WB) situation and Ed was correct to flat call as a raise folds all inferior hands and is called by all superior hands.
single = simple from last post
Gamboooooooooooooooooooooool :-)
I'm not really one to get involved in the debate of how you should run your life, but what I will do is wish you the very best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
snoops
I like the guys confusing check on the turn.
PS Kenny you do realise hes playing NL dont you? Its very odd talking about 4 betting it in No limit
4-betting is the re-raise of a 3-bet is it not?! Granted with 100bb starting stacks it's usually an all in bet but I understood it was called a 4-bet all the same? I might be wrong though - I don't devote a lot of time to correct terminology :D
fuck my pipe
I thought we'd been through this...
If you need to chat once this is all over you can contact me through my bloooog.
Good luck mate
Come and play in the King of Cash tournament. It's on a new site and I have a feeling there are sharks waiting for you where you play..
As there is only one other entrant so far you will get the 40% rakeback which is very good for the playtech network.
You mentioned in your blog on Friday June 29 u may play in this comp.
Whatever you decide, good luck!
Come and play in the King of Cash tournament. It's on a new site and I have a feeling there are sharks waiting for you where you play..
As there is only one other entrant so far you will get the 40% rakeback which is very good for the playtech network.
You mentioned in your blog on Friday June 29 u may play in this comp.
Whatever you decide, good luck!
"Flop is a single way-ahead or way-behind (WA/WB) situation and Ed was correct to flat call as a raise folds all inferior hands and is called by all superior hands"
So raising here and making a smaller pair fold is a bad play?
why can't he raise the flop and take the pot down?
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If Ed raises that flop his line is “I’ve got an ace or better (and he does)” or “I’ve got an ace or better (and he doesn’t)”. Thus he has an ace or he’s pure bluffing! The board is no use for a semi-bluff thus any bluff by ed is a pure bluff and his opponent will know it. In the circumstances I’d bet his opponent would fold AJ-down (assuming he’d 3-bet those!), KK, QQ, etc. However, his opponent probably wouldn’t fold AK or better here. Thus if ed raises all the hands that he beats (and is not very vulnerable to (2-3 outs)) fold but all the ones that have Ed totally crushed call/re-raise him.
“Taking it down” is a tournament play whereby there are times where you’ll happily push an opponent out of pot even though you are miles ahead to conserve your chips. In cash there is seldom reason to ‘take it down’. In this situation Ed wants his opponent to continue betting off money with AJ, KK, QQ, etc safe in the knowledge these hands are unlikely to improve to beat him. Similarly by just calling down Ed may save some money when he is crushed. The skill is in realising when your opponents is bluffing or value betting if he continues to bet the turn and river down your throat.
Another way to think of it is that a raise from Ed is a value raise given he has TP/2nd best kicker on a safe board. However, there is NO value if there isn’t an inferior hand that would call a raise and thus the raise has a –EV. If the bet isn’t for value then it must be for a bluff, which given Ed has showdown value, would be mad here and also wouldn’t work since he can’t get superior hands to his to fold.
Keep going Ed. Dont listen to the haters. All the best players in the world online have massive swings it really is the only way to make big money...Look at Benyamine, Townsend, Ivey et al. These boys are swinging huge but are still way on top. You are still massively up overall in your career and I think you should continue witht he way you play. You get the action and force players into massive decisions for their stacks at any point of any hand, true NL holdem. Good luck sir. Speak soon. Binner
It's OK saying continue with the way you play but the point is that unless he wants to put his house money into play (which isnt a good idea) he doesnt have the roll to continue the same way.
Not to mention the fact that Benyamine, Townsend, Ivey et al are Sponsored pros.
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