IN BAD SHAPE
put £5k more of borrowed money in on wednesday afternoon and made £12k (£8k of it on $250/$500). went on in the evening and bust it all (the profit, not the £5k). i put £10k more in of borrowed money but didn't play any more that night.
today i played a few rounds of $25/$50 and a couple of hours of $50/$100 and $100/$200. i was up a few $k at one point but was down to my last $11k or so a couple of hours later on $100/$200. i doubled up soon after with kings againsts queens to get to $33k ($3k in the profit) but bust it all except $1200 very soon after when i called an all in on the turn drawing dead for a $62k pot.
bar my final £600 i've bust everything i've been lent.... so i've decided to sell the house. it's something that's been on my mind for awhile. whenever i'm broke it always seems stupid having money invested in the house but having nothing to play with. obviously it's a big decision for me but i'm pretty sure. it's gonna take several weeks probably to sell so i'm going to be skint for awhile but when i do finally get the money i think i will be able to hold on to it this time. although i'm not sure my confidence is justified.
today i played a few rounds of $25/$50 and a couple of hours of $50/$100 and $100/$200. i was up a few $k at one point but was down to my last $11k or so a couple of hours later on $100/$200. i doubled up soon after with kings againsts queens to get to $33k ($3k in the profit) but bust it all except $1200 very soon after when i called an all in on the turn drawing dead for a $62k pot.
bar my final £600 i've bust everything i've been lent.... so i've decided to sell the house. it's something that's been on my mind for awhile. whenever i'm broke it always seems stupid having money invested in the house but having nothing to play with. obviously it's a big decision for me but i'm pretty sure. it's gonna take several weeks probably to sell so i'm going to be skint for awhile but when i do finally get the money i think i will be able to hold on to it this time. although i'm not sure my confidence is justified.
posted by Ed Hollis at 3:55 PM
127 Comments:
"After doing (running) so well this morning i feel very deflated about this latest loss. i can't hold a roll at all. as soon as i have some money i seem to lose any game selection or if i go on a soft table and it gets harder i still don't leave till i'm even."
Read what you're posting!! You have a SERIOUS gambling addiction. It doesn't matter how good you are...you're exhibiting no bankroll management whatsoever!! GET HELP NOW. Read what you just posted, imagine someone else wrote it, and what you'd think is wrong with him. GET SOME HELP before things get any worse.
You don't know me, and I don't know you, but I think you are on the path to self destruction. If you want, you can drop me an email to have a chat to someone impartial. I really hate seeing people do this to themselves.
sigh ed PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STAKE SOME PEOPLE PLZZZZ. i mean if u where to put up 10k for a few people to play 1/2 2/4 who made a profit u could prob live comfy but r gna lose ur house, ur life and everything in it if u keep this up as gullanian said drop me a line if u wanna chat about anything
Hey Ed I'm not going to pussy foot about here, the way you are playing you shall most definitely go broksie woksie and that gos for your house too!
The fundamental issue is you do not have sufficient intelligence to mange your bankroll, the stories you have posted are absurd and are the height of stupidity. Do you have no understanding of logic or rational thinking? do you have a double digit IQ?
My advice? I hear MC Donalds are now offering qualifications I think this is the perfect opportunity for the likes of you.Quit now or else you wll be living off tesco beans for the remainder of your pathetic existence.
tosser!
i can't wait to read this blog after you sell the house. Good decision mate - need to get that money circulating in the poker world again. how much you going to get for it - how about trying the $500/$1000 Ivey death match table on FT...
I thought the reason you bought the house was that you could definately show something from the lucky run of cards you've had. It was to lock up the win. If you sell, not only would you have lost money on the house after all the costs, but all your life-time poker profit will be at risk. It's the stupidest thing you can do and you will regret it.
A better idea is to move back home, rent out the house for an income to cover the mortgage, and go get an education or a career.
seriously, i`ve had issues as well.
selling the house is not the option, getting help is.
you won`t ever be happy again, even if you win, if you don`t get help
Like many of the posters above me I don't know you Ed, and I like reading your blog. But honestly, if any of Eds' friends are reading this: Get your friend some help and stop him before he destroys himself. You seem like a sincere guy Ed, and I have a lot of respect for the fact that you post so openly about your life, but if this continues you won't even have a computer to update your blog.
Enough is enough. I seriously hope you find a way to deal with your addiction. Good luck.
sell the house! mental! why don't you sell a kidney as well! (have i just put an idea in your head)
well you're gonna do what your gonna do, just wondering where you are gonna draw the line. do YOU know?
seymour
http://www.seymourcards.com
Hey Ed. I'm a regular reader, but not a regular commentator as I've always felt that you probably couldn't be reached. I know, that if you are a pathological (compulsive) gambler, then you’re most likely not to listen to reason and I also know, that pathological gamblers more often than not needs to go totally broke and lose everything (e.g. wife, kids, job, house, car), before being able to seek help. You are so much a compulsive gambler, that a search on you on Google, gives a lot of hits, where one can read about how crazy you are. First time I read about you, was in the Danish pokermag www.acemag.dk. They are pokerplayers themselves, follow you closely and see you as a warning to all pokerplayers – do not end up like this.
Based on this knowledge, I’ve followed your blog, but haven’t written to you, since I figured it wouldn’t matter… But now it matters!
It matters a great deal, because if you’re selling your house, you’re selling out of yourself. You were so proud of yourself, when you decided to buy your house and even prouder, when you finally had an expensive tangible prove of your poker skills. Buying that house was the closest you’ll ever get to BRM and you know it yourself very well.
Keep being proud of that house and keep it as a token. It is that house that actually makes you Ed, proud of yourself!!
If you sell it and blow all the money away – and you know you will, do not even consider trying to convince yourself, that you will not, because deep, deep down you know you will lose it all – you will hold yourself in contempt and scorn yourself about it, for the rest of your days!
You need to set up some achievable goals for yourself. For instance you could stop playing cashgames, because you decided, that you will learn, master and conquer MTTs. You decide, that your ultimate goal is to become so good, that you’ll have a real shot at winning the sunday million or any other big sunday tournament. As I see it, you good enough to do it at one point or another, but you need to work on your MTT-game… That’s a goal for you!
Another point of interest to you, could be, that you’ll team up with a mate and make him your Financial Bankroll Manager. If you can find someone you trust enough, you can make it a partnership, where he will get 5% or whatever of your winnings for being your BRManager. Your winnings will then be his winnings and as well your losses will sort of be his losses. It could work out and of course I realize, that you’ll be giving him some of your money, but giving him some and getting a lot yourself, is soo much better then going broke!
I’m hoping, Ed. I really do. Turn around now. It’s not too late, but it soon will be!
Whatever you do, do NOT sell your house. Sublet it and rent an apartment or something – just do not sell it!
Yours sincerely
Morten.
Actually moved to comment. Cos Moreton's post is really good and you know he's completely right.
I can't believe what you are saying.
How can Ed avoid selling the house when he owes £15,000?
He might be able to re-mortgage, but then how does he meet his monthly repayments?
You're on tilt, judging from the hands you post. You might eventually be forced to sell the house, but don't do it without taking advice from somebody level-headed and not emotionally involved. Go to Gamcare, a building society, a financial advisor, a counsellor, citizen's advice, a psychiatrist, whatever. But don't do something like this on a whim, like calling with jack shit because you're steaming.
lol. if you wanna see some bank roll management visit pokerlife.wordpress.com.
this guy ends up quitting on a high.
So your net worth is less than one house and your net income is zero per month from regular work and negative from gambling.
So you improve your situation by stopping gambling, period. That's hard enough, but then you have to deal with the other money stuff.
Selling the house will give you liquidity which we all know you will blow playing poker, leaving you with nothing, which is possibly the safest position you can be in, ironically. But it's not a nice place to be.
If you can negotiate it with your creditors then stopping gambling and getting a job to pay off your debts is the optimum solution. Time for a reality check, you are in deep trouble and you need to make grown-up decisions to get out of it. Get help, from anyone who is willing. Get a job, for your self-esteem. And ffs stop throwing your money (and other people's) in the bin with this terrible approximation to poker that you've been playing.
All the best.
I don't think it's fair to call Ed terrible at HE, he just lacks any sense of banroll management, and to many people who are stupid enough to lend him money.
Ed, you need to drop limits - how many of your sessions end with you stepping up a level to get a huge win only to go broke. Stick to 5/10 or 10/20 on a thirty grand bankroll. 100/200 gives you no leeway to tilt/play bad/get unlucky.
Selling your house will only cause you to increase limits as you chase your looses, loosing everything you've put to one side. You're better off finding someone to back you at lower limits, someone who'll force you to stick within a bankroll and keep your ego in check. Do you know someone who already lends you cash who'd be willing to stake you?
Saying that, you could just be the best blog to show to someone who you think might be going compulsive. At the moment you're less of a poker player and more of a warning to others. It's a freak show.
www.jawsuspoker.blogspot.com
Ed,, fancy being profiled in Flush magazine?
let me know and I'll PM you the contact details.
Jon
alright, quite a long time reader but first time poster..
to be quite honest i've used your ups and downs as a big of a gag for laughter, be it laughing at how much of a lack of bankroll management you have at times, or laughing at your calls, or laughing at your ability to ride a long heater (= your result to date).
but seriously, it's gone beyond entertainment, as so many have mentioned already. you're well on your way along that dark path to destruction. i have no idea whether your friends and family are stupid or deluded, but you ARE a losing player longterm, and you are simply not cut out to be a professional poker player.
really, really REALLY seek help and quit.
best advice for you by far is to start playing MTT's. it must be pretty clear to you by now that you are not a strong winner in high stakes cash- certainly not in Gulkine's or bloeffer's league.
once you sell you will have a liferoll for a couple of years, and if you ONLY play MTT's you will probably win. your cash approach of aggressivley busting off small bits of money chasing a run of cards and a big score can only really work in MTT.
Also, stop reading and start posting at 2+2, these recent blogs are obviously in response to the threads in NVG, participating in hand analysis and discussion will definately improve your game and help you find and fix many of the leaks that have cost you so dearly recently.
Jon, does Flush magazine pay for interviews? Would they stretch to £15,000?
Time for a Stand By Me Quote:
"Loony, loony, loony!"
stake me!
Actually
better yet
rent rent rent!!!
=)
Scouse
Long time reader first time poster.
Really try and avoid selling the house mate. Far better renting it out and taking a non-status 2nd charge loan on it if you want to release the equity.
I have a strange feling that you will go on to great things in poker eventually although its going to be a rough ride for you short term.
Be lucky kiddo.
Definitely sell the house, you need to get yourself rolled again bro ! And for God's sake don't consider moving down in limits, move up if possible ! You must be due a huge upswing and you would be gutted to be poncing around at 5-10 when it comes !
Sell Sell Sell,
Get urself a br with wotever you get for it and get back to the $250/500 tarbs. Operation, Erik1234and bloeffer are waiting for you to spunk it off into their bank accounts, I think Rams wife is looking a new car !
Your not a poker player your just a gambler and nothing more. Your play sucks and is more suited to $0.10/0.20 rather than the deluded levels you play. So sell the house asap get the roll and donate it to the REAL professionals, I know they would appreciate it.
The sooner you end up on the streets the better, maybe then will you appreciate how much a tosser you have been and maybe then learn the true value of money.
Sell, Sell, Sell u muppett.
FLUSH Magazine March Issue,
Front cover a photo of Ed with the headline-
BLUESCOUSE, THE FACE OF A LOSER,
tips on how not to play poker !!!!
SELL SELL SELL you idiot
Finally!
There's something about inevitability that is so comforting.
Ed -
Sorry to see that you've got yourself in yet another bind. I'd recommend against selling the house as having a roof over your head is generally a good thing.
You've done wonders for the poker economy, though I hope this stops soon for your sake. There's seems to be nothing else that I nor anyone can say that will make you take a step back from the tables and analyze why you seem to lose incessantly at the tables.
Good luck in the future. I'm sure you'll be back at the tables in no time. At what cost? Who knows...
I agree with Klopzi you have done wonders for the poker economy, just ask the bank managers of bloeffer, Erik1234 or Ram, to name just a few, and they will forever sing your praises, so ffs hurry up and SELL SELL SELL and get back to the tarbs, the poker economy needs a little boost !
As for a roof over your head, dont worry about it, a piece of cardboard and a dark alley is good enuff for you, so SELL SELL SELL.
I can't believe some of these responses! Obviously there is a combination of jealousy and lack of poker knowledge at play with the people reading this.
Let me clue in the uneducated - poker has a lot of variance. You have to roll with the bad times. If that means sell your house, so be it.
The most important thing is to get back in the game. Don't get discouraged - it will turn around. This house sale will get you a big enough bankroll to handle the swings and get back on easy street.
Bigger house next time!!
Hang in there!!
Obviously these comments are coming from people who don't understand poker. There is a ton of short term varaince. I play professionally and live very well. I have had my downswings too.
Hang in there and don't give up!!
If selling your house is what it takes to get you back in the game, then that's what you need to do. I think part of the problem is your bankroll has not been big enough to ride the short term temporary down swings.
Get that bankroll up there and get back in the game and make those of us who have been there proud and shut up all these jealous nay-sayers!!
Dude,
Don't sell the house! If you just stay focus and keep hammering at it. You will be back on top. I know you can do it. Holla
Jealous or lack of poker knowledge ..........LMAO
Have any of u muppetts every taken the time to watch how this idiot plays? He brings a new meaning to the term 'fish' In fact in terms of poker parlance the term 'fish' is soon to be replaced by beng called a tolal 'Ed'
Any player who goes all-in with 10 8 of spades for $23K on a total bluff at a table full of 4-5 top internet and live pro poker players who all know his game, is a total muppett.
'The sun even shines on the dogs arse sometimes' is an old saying, the sun shone on Eds arse last year and he got lucky and as a result he suddenly thought he was a top pro internet poker player.... lmao. Now he has found the real world of poker and came face to face with the term 'variance' The sun aint shining on his arse anymore and all he can do is moan and say he is depressed !
Any poker player who calls himself a pro or makes a living from poker knows and understands the meaning of the term 'variance' and how to overcome it by using the simple but tried and tested rule of 'bank roll mamagement' This is something that is totally alien to Ed.
I know many players who call themselves pro poker players and make a very nice living playing on $1/2-$5/10nl tables, many making well over £100K sterling a year tax free. Ed's understanding of a poker pro is that you must play the bigest tables with everything you got.
So if anyone hasnt actually taken the time to watch this guy play then stfu, go back and read his blog and see the sort of hands this tosser plays and then you will come to see what a total arse hole this guy is and now he is reaping what he well and truely deserves.
Sell, Sell, Sell u wanker.
Ed, please mate, please. This is horrible????????
This is like Britney Spears without the microphone and drugs.
I really hope you get out of your current situation mate, it is sad to read this blog now. You seem like a nice guy and it is obvious you are throwing your life away.
$250/500, $100/200, $50/100, Erik1234, etc, etc, etc.....
What is wrong with playing $2.50/5.00 or $5/10 for 40+ hours per week? You could still make a packet and wouldn't have to crawl out of bed at 6am and spend the day doing a boring 'real' job.
Seriously , working for 40 hrs a week in a real job is no fun. You keep getting yourself into dream situations where you wouldn't need to work again and you throw the oppertunity away again and again. One time the oppertunities will fail to reveal themselve as they have done up till now.
Don't sell your house mate.
The crazy thing is, you obviously have the abilty to win. I have no doubt you will be back up within a few months. This time please play with a safety net. You walk the tightrope every time without the aid of a net(x50 buy ins ) to catch you when you fall.
good luck
yeah sell your house and move UP TO WHERE THEY RESPECT YOUR RAISES!!!
Thats sad to hear Ed, Most of us have told you different things 100s of times but its a bug with you.
I admire your honesty and the way you built up from scratch before but you cant waste this.
You have one last chance here, sell the house, clear your debts. I have a rough idea what you clear. Move back home. Invest it wisely, Get yourself a couple of thousand cash , get a plane ticket and go and work the summer season abroad in some bar. Have a laugh, get a bit pissed, get some sun, meet some birds and spend the next 6 months enjoying life.
You built a roll and lost some of it. Fair play, ul, gg, etc. But to lose borrowed money that should set the alarm bells flashing.
Its dangerous ground. Do the right things.
Sell the house and stop pishing round on 250 500
get on 1k 2k NL
Look at these wankers telling you to sell and get back in the game...
You are done Ed.
You will NEVER win long term at poker. You don't have a pot to piss in now and if you sell the house you won't have a window to throw it out of.
You will lose what you get from it by April.
You will never get a job (or desire one).
You will commit suicide by June.
R.I.P.
"whenever i'm broke it always seems stupid having money invested in the house but having nothing to play with."
Question...
When you have money, does it ever seem stupid to you to play limits where a minor downswing could leave you with no money left to play with?
No, no of course not. Carry on.
Hey Ed
My offer still stands.
Drop me another email.
Ed, I feel that it is no use me posting because there are so many so you won't be fooked to read them all!!! However, i'll have a go anyway.
Obviously a lot of the post on here are a joke, that one guy who seems to be on your back is clearly one of lifes 'little people' who has nothing to do except masturbate all day and then come on here and berate younger, more successful folk.
Listen to the likes of Amatay or Gatsby, people who are successful and haves brains. Talk to them, i'm sure they'll be willing to listen.
I'm not sure whether selling the house is a good or bad thing. On one hand it's true, where are you going to get £15k from?? On the other hand it will just mean that you'll use it all to play with, which is silly, you should just use 10-20%.
I hope things turn round bud. There is no doubting that playing at 100/200 and 250/500 without a couple of $mil in the bank will be you going broke.
I saw you play the other day, and I have to say you showed some real quality. Firstly, trapping mcqueen with that A10 on the 1010x board. Everyone at the table respected that play. Then trapping sagstrom. Problem with that big hand where you lost to sagstrom's flush, when you made set of 7s was how much did it mean?? Like, i thought sagstrom played that horribly but then i realised why. He obviously put you on a set and knew he could catch his draw and win. If he lost, you'd be more rolled up and he'd get your money eventually, plus it would be like losing £20 to him. If he wins he gets your depleting roll and you go away.
You NEED to realise that people (and i mean great players, afterall erik1234 is the best) will continue to play high variance poker against you. They know youre not rolled and they know eventually you with stack off to them.
Go back to your parents, you're still v young, and properly discuss with them what is going on. Surely they will choose to help you out and offer advice. Before selling your house seek PROPER advice, don't try and do it yourself.
You're a good lad and everything i'm sure will be ok as long as you use a little common sense.
Lecture over. Gl buddy.
u r a degenerate nob sort ur life out get a job and give up this game witch u r clearly no good at mupp.
"u r a degenerate nob sort ur life out get a job and give up this game witch u r clearly no good at mupp."
LOL @ "Witch"
LMAO at goose u muppett, listen to what you have said:
Apply common sense, do you really honestly and truely believe Ed has even the slightest understanding of the term, if he did he wouldnt be spunking away his money at the deluded levels he plays. A common sense approach to his game is to get more money and play at levels at which he is rolled to play and can win at, which is probably $5/10, but will he do it.........NO WAY
so common sense is out the window.
Do you really believe Ed can cut it with the likes of bloeffer and Erik1234, whom you yourself has stated is one of the greats, come on get a reality check here, statistics alone say he cant, otherwise he wouldnt be in this position.
You are quite right that he should listen to amatay and the ukgatsby who are good up and coming players, but the difference between them is that they both apply common sense and brm to their play and only play at levels the are rolled for, a concept that Ed will never embrace.
On his play, well any muppet can trap even the greatest of players if they have the nuts or top hand, the difference between Ed and the top pro's he mixes it with is their ability to win consistantly and win when they dont have the best hand, something Ed will never be able to do give his miserable timing when bluffing.
The cards and indeed the statistics speak for themselves, Ed is not a top pro internet player, he thinks he is but he is far from it. If he could get a reality check and played at sensible levels then he could quite easily make a living from the game, but can you or anyone see Ed doing that?
So go back to your University and concentrate on your degree instead of waisting your time with this loser. By all means watch the internet greats get better and richer but also watch our young TALENT, amatay, ukgatsby, mooreman, pab, geeforce1 etc rise up the poker tables.
In the meantime Ed...Sell Sell Sell
Some of you guys are seriously sick, you get pleasure out of having a go at him and make yourselves look stupid in the process.
Thank god he has real "friends" to support him and offer guidance etc, whether he takes it or not at least he knows they are true friends.
Hello Ed
You have obviously got to sell your house to clear your debts. Missing mortgage payments and having an ever growing debt mountain and playing with scared money is not a good place to be for a poker player. Those who talk of you taking on more debt are completely deluded.
But you have to really think about whether you should even be playing. I am a $5/$10 regular on betfair, and I could not get on the 9 seater table the other day. The reason I couldn't get on there was you were there. People were in the line because even at $5/$10 they knew you were easy money. If every time you sit down a big queue develops then there is no better indicator that you are playing too high.
If the $5/$10 players see you this way, then how do you think the $100/$200 players see you? Well there were 10 lined up to play you the other night. These are not people who are just spouting their opinions on your blog. These are people who are willing to risk their bankrolls on their opinion, with many playing (way) above their normal stakes just to get a piece of your roll.
If you do start again, then approach badbeat or somebody similar. You obviously can not set you own limits or manage your own roll. Let them do it for you.
I think you probably could make it at $2.5/$5 upwards in the long run, but you really need to have a good look at yourself first.
I wish you well.
Doobs
Some good comments on Eds current situation, morten, hav0cnz and even dasloot makes sense. I dont think anyone here wants to see you go down the tube Ed, but you really gotta start to take note of what people are saying. Get some help mate with your gambling deamons and try to get some sense of normality back into your life. You must have some serious sleepless nights atm, I know I would if I were in your shoes. As for your friends, well I dont think they are doing enough for you, if any of you are reading this then I urge you to get behind this guy and get him some serious help before its too late.
this will be my last post, as i think ed is a lost cause tbh.
MAIR: WOW have you missed the point entirely. his friends aren't giving him smart advice, i think they are deluded themselves in thinking that ed is a winning player. i'm not having a go at him, even though he really is a stupid cunt, but i'm trying to bring him down to earth here.
anyone else who is doing this, in any fashion, is a better friend than his best real-life friend at the moment.
goose: LOL at quality play. as doobs pointed out, there is a long line of people waiting to play with ed whenever he jumps on. why do you think that is? do you think people at those stakes think "wow, ed is a real famous celebrity, lets play with him" or "wow, i really hate this guy, lets bust him"... or possibly.. "WOW FREE MONEY GOGOGO!"
most of the players on those highstakes cash games are solid grinders, and ed is a fish compared to them.
Well said hav0cnz
Sell Sell Sell
lol..some gay comments
"You are quite right that he should listen to amatay and the ukgatsby who are good up and coming players, but the difference between them is that they both apply common sense and brm to their play and only play at levels the are rolled for, a concept that Ed will never embrace."
Yeah, I presume the £2 mtts UKgatsby plays aren't stretching his bankroll too much. :)
"Yeah, I presume the £2 mtts UKgatsby plays aren't stretching his bankroll too much. :)"
Well £2 mtts probably would stretch his br atm, considering he is -£15K !
Amatay made $6.25K last month on his first month as a 'poker pro' and thats enough to pay Ed's mortgage, living expenses and go out on the piss with Burnley Mik.
Sell, Sell, Sell
which begs me to ask gravedigger... what's your line in all this?
Gravedigger is Ed's boyfriend and drinking partner!
Sry Burnley Mik
Sell, Sell, Sell
loooooooool, i've been mentioned 4 times in this comments section. Apparently Ed Im a young upcoming player lmfao!!! Im a complete DONK! ;-)
i know who gravedigger is, i'm just wondering... are you trying to stop ed from playing poker? or are you egging him on?
The only difference between Ed and the vast majority of his pro poker cohorts is that's he's brutally honest about his compulsive gambling addiction and lays it out in fine detail for public consumption. All of you screaming "GET HELP NOW" are deluding yourselves if you think Ed is an exception to the rule. Pros, the very best, routinely go bust, often have all of their roll in play, if not on the table, then via props, sports books and the golf course. Playing with "borrowed" money is also pretty commonplace within the pro scene. Doyle talks in his books about going bust countless times in his career, and he also says that all pro poker players are compulsive gamblers, "but we've just found a way to win at it."
The life of the pro poker player (read: compulsive gambler) has been romanticized every since Moneymaker provided corporate entrepreneurs the opportunity to capitalize on the "dream" via online gaming. The millions being poured into supremely flashy online poker site TV ads all share one bottom line: cash, and loads of it. And where does the cash come from? Addicts like Ed. Addiction is always an easy score, especially when cloaked in, and justified by, romantic terms such as a "skill game" "mathematical variance" and "bankroll management." FT ads comparing the poker table to the corporate board room and PS ads that stress "it's all about the strategy" are all part of the mythology that feeds pokers sites the endless, addict-fuelled rake they all rely on.
I've got no advice for Ed. Nor would I even begin to try to give it. I will say he offers a true, sometimes painful look into the lifestyle of professional poker, and his series of blogs might make for a fascinating book some day.
Just trying to add a bit of context here.
i don't think it's so much as a general rule that poker players must go bust at some point at all.
i know that there are others in a similar spot, but that definitely does not mean ed does not need to seek help.
ed is simply not cut out for the "profession" and saying he doesn't need to seek help right now is exactly like saying a heroin junkie should just carry on.
Once again hav0cnz.......WELL SAID.
Sell, Sell, Sell
don't want him to sell tbh, it would cause him more probs when he gets the money imho. I think he could spin up a small amount of money into a very large sum once again in the future. But i obviously just want him to do well..not sell the house and spunk that money up the wall on high stakes. I believe if he gets up to large amount again, all of his mates will try and encourage him more too use better BRM, maybe not as good as he should do, but better than he does atm, Ed is a very very good player, and definetely has the skill to play at those levels. I know this for a fact. He just needs to build up his bankroll further to afford to play there if it doesn't go well a couple times.
but it's his choice whatever he does, i just always wish him luck :)
here here tom
"Ed is a very very good player, and definetely has the skill to play at those levels. I know this for a fact."
But how do you know this Tom? Why do you think it's a fact? - because Ed's career earnings so far total roughly 4 or 5 buy-ins at the 250/500 level? That's not a good enough indication, trust me. I won that much in 1 hour today. It means f all.
Fair comment crazylay......... well said
Most peolpe, especially the high level pros, know Ed aint cut out for the game. He is a compusive gambler not a pro poker player, but because Ed won a little he and his mates think he is the next BIG star..........................lmao
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Well said w.stranger.
Love how poker players call losing sessions 'variance'.
Its like they are too scared to say the word 'lose'.
@gravedigger. this is exactly my point. as a friend, you should be giving him advice to quit, not false hope from someone who truly knows nothing about professional poker (no offence intended) that will only serve to further dig ed's own grave.
even if ed was skilled enough to play poker professionally (which i seriously doubt), he still does not have the psychological mindset to pull it off.
SEEK. HELP.
don't sell your house man! that's crazy - honestly. Just get a starting roll of $10k or so and do some bankroll rules like no more than 10% at a time. The best thing to do is start right at the bottom - say $2-4NL and just grind out a couple of hundred per day - more than you'd make in a crappy job.
I don't know you nor you me so excuse the advice - but love your blog and read it regularly - good luck
This is definately not good Ed, I'm no world champ but my own blog - helps me stay on course and provides me with the tools needed to build me BR.
Dasloot
How are you buddy? just thought I should mention, not sure if anyone has pointed it out for you... you're brown nosing sucky little cunt. I happen to think Gatsby sounds like an ok guy but fuck off you cheesecock, he's not some Brazilian wonderkid rising through the ranks on his £2 MTT's!!
Stay lucky Tit
neze,
lol, my new found friend, maybe one day you will make it to the £2 MTT's, as for Ed, well he cant even afford those at the minute !
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Blue my boy, dont get depressed over a few sick beats, YorkiePuds had the sickest beat of them all, see my blog for details. Puts things into perspective.
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dasloot, u do seem a fuckin complete and utter retard, are u sure ur old enough to be playing poker? and shut the fuck up saying sell sell sell u tit...uve not give one bit of good advice here tbh, u just chat shit..he is never going to take advice from someone like you, so ur wasting ur time typing tbh, so fk off back to 1c/2c.
and what're your words of wisdom tom?
you haven't mentioned the advice you're actually giving ed at the moment.
gravedigger,
lmao, u fucking twat, seem to have struck a nerve there !
As hav0cnz has asked.....
WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU SUGGEST, YOU MUPPETT
Your mate is a degenerate, compulsive gambler, not a poker player, and the only way he (and you)will come to terms with that fact is when he blows the lot. Only when gamblers have spunked away everything does the enormity of their situation hit home and then they either seek professional help or end up on the streets. So........
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DasLoot has it spot on. In fact I'd say Gravedigger is even partly responsible for Ed's mess. As to the people saying crap like "dont sell the house get a 10k roll and grind2 - where the fucks he getting a 10k roll from without selling the house when hes 15k in debt ? Get out of cloud cuckoo land !! He couldn't beat the mid stakes games anyway !!!
Sell, Sell, Sell !
Hey ed,
1st of all i wouldnt listen to these idiots putting you down what you do is madness but you also attract allot of fans, my advice and this is from a bankroll builder.
Sell ur house and pay off ur debts, move back to ur parents house (if allowed) and set up a pc etc etc allow urself 30-50 buy ins and play at a level and work ur way up buddy, put in allot of hours but stay with in ur levels. work on ur play, position, aggression and trappings. dont be scared to fold good hands just wait ur moment. i hope this advice helps bankroll management is hard to do im only getting the hang of it now but i hope u do well good luck what ever u do. God Bless.
Well done for that highly original piece of advice ! In all the thousands of comments on the hundreds of posts, nobody, but nobody, has EVER suggested using Bankroll management !!! Good god the man's a freaking genius !! How did you come up with that revolutionary idea !!???
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Thankyou James,
I agree Ed's friends are not offering him any sound advice or supporting him in any way. With friends like that who needs enemies!
The besy piece of advice for Ed to consider is this;-
Admit you are not a poker player and cannot beat the game long term, walk away from the game.
Admit you are a complusive gambler and seek professional help
Remortgage your house, if that is possible given you dont have a job, to raise the capital you need to pay back your debts
Rent the house out, therefore covering your mortgage and still maintaining a foot on the property ladder
Get a job
Thats it, follow my advice and your life WILL improve.
But, if you choose to ignore it, then........
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I see you like making other people rich. To save you the time and heartache you can just transfer it straight to me if you like the end result will be the same.
Bluscouse Bankroll=£0
LMAO,
Cea (the busted man) dont think you are much of a br builder judging from reading your blog.
Bankroll management and playing within ones limits are the traits of a professional poker player, and the basics for those who want to succeed.
Ed is a gambler and so chases his gambling 'fix' at as high a level he can.
Pack it in Ed, look deep and hard at where you are right now, and take a step back, right away from poker.
Or if that doesnt make any sense then......
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Perhaps to thank Gravedigger for his friendship Ed will send him on a course in basic English skills with the proceeds from the house.
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lmfao...oh right, so u lot can judge me for the friend i am to ed can you? ahahaha, stfu u jealous cunts..ur all very envious, and have no lifes so read abouts others, yawn, i give ed the advice i wnt to give him when i talk to him in real life, no waste my time typing shit on here, he either chooses to accept it or not, all of u dnt understand that he does what he wants, not what the fuck u want, rambling on about how to be a good poker player blah blah blah, most of u saying it havent managed have a bankroll over £200K have you? no. so stfu and let him do what he wants, the only reason he has got the house etc is from the way he has played, so u cant critise him for tht...now bore off!
gravedigger, I seemed to have hit yet another nerve...........lol
Have had a look over your blog, all I see is 'bust' 'lost' 'down £25' or lost even more. Bet you couldnt string a $200 roll together.
The reason you call Ed a friend is so YOU can boast to all your squaddie mates that you hang out with a 'poker player' and I use that term lightly.
What Ed may have achieved in the past, well that has no bearing towards the situation in which he finds himself in now.
As for me being jealous, lmfao, why would I be jealous of someone that is a compulsive gambler, in £15K debt and has no job ?
So Ed if you choose to ignore my advice to walk away from poker, well you can always sell, get a roll together and say 'hello' to the real poker pro's at the high limit tables. If thats your school of thought at the minute then.....
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WOW at your comment tom. if you really are one of the few people ed is taking advice from at this critical juncture in his life, well... ed.. you're pretty fucked. i give up.
entirely agree with the comment "with friends like you, who needs enemies?"
i think your pseudonym "gravedigger" is really quite ironic
Once again hav0cnz.... WELL SAID
This is brilliant lol
i reckon ed should start a web site with a subscription charge to help fund his "problem" with the amount of readers hes got. Or maybe someone should write a book or do a film of him.
TBH this really is scarey stuff with genuine concerns from some and others who are blunt honest and straight to the point.
"playing within ones limits are the traits of a professional poker player" is a comment everyone should stick with pro or not. Its the basic rule of gambling.
True, it is the basic rule for gambling but when your gambling becomes an addiction and you become a complusive gambler then all bets are off and rules dont apply. You then dont realise the exact enormity of the situation you find yourself in, until its all gone !
James....... quality mate, quality.
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Sounds like ed has just hit some bad variance. Now comes the upswing, seems like a perfect time to sell the house and play the big games. gluck mate
Dasloot
You just want to give Ed a cuddle don't you... go on... tell him how you feel, he might feel the same. Take a shot
Hi Ed. Don't know if you're reading this or remember the me, but I'm back with a blog.
It's the freeroller to highroller thing again...
Besides from that I wish you the best and have confidence that you have the ability to do what's best for you.
GL
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ahahahaha dasloot, ur gay or summit, ahahaha...i wud so wish for you to get a life, you reached high school yet sweatheart? hahahaha..idiot..and so are your boyfriends your getting to write for you " i agree again" ahahaha, "i wanna suck your cock" more like, you fuckin arse, ahah..gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
dasloot the retard, you say my blog is summit, at least i didnt dedicate my wholeeeeee blog to someone i don't know..hhaha..fkin cock
Gravedigger said
"..ur all very envious, and have no lifes so read abouts others, yawn, i give ed the advice i wnt to give him when i talk to him in real life, no waste my time typing shit on here,"
Your a fcuking gift Tom, good to see you taking the time to read my blog AND wasting your time typing a serious amount of shit on here !
lmao
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Why not borrow some more money, say another 15K, and sell the house. That way you'll get a proper bankroll together.
Then you can hit the tables without being worried about your finances.
Maybe find a mate and live cheap at his place.
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hi ed...i would like to say a big 'thank you'. it is because of you & reading your blog that i have given up internet poker. i have actively installed a piece of software on my computer which prevents any form of gambling at a small cost of £40 per year. i have been playing for 4 years and yes, had dreams of becoming a full time poker pro. but, i have become very disallusioned with the game on-line. i felt like i was on a merry-go round of winning, losing, breaking even...but most importantly i never felt satisfied. i was playing almost for the sake of playing. when does it stop??? reading your blog has made me realise what can happen to any one of us:( i dont want it to happen to me. good luck ed....
IMO this is fucking awesome. F THE HATERS.
Well done. anychance of swapping blog links?
http://hellboundhellraiser.blogspot.com/
Ed, from Spain i want to wish you good luck. I have just published on my Poker Blog your sad history.
There is life outside of Poker.
http://nicoroldan.blogspot.com
And DONT sell your house, try to do things better.
Here's an article I've written about Bluescouse:
http://gutshot.com/articles/view.php
Excellent article and a lesson to all gamblers and poker players of the dangers of addiction.
I hope this article and Ed's story can goes some way in pulling some gamblers back from the brink of disaster that gambling causes, but is it too late for Ed?
Ed,
You rule, because you generate THE BEST COMMENTS EVER!
More stupid comments here than ANYWHERE!
You're the best!
Keep up the good work.
To anyone interrested in making a link-switch: Post a comment on my blog...
This has to be one of the most exciting poker blog reads out there, so kudos for that.
It has inspired me to start my own, although there's no way that I could ever do what Ed does!! Crazy!!!!
Good luck Ed.
Haven't read this blog in a long time, not even mildly surprised to see him now selling the one thing (the house) that stood between his gambling addiction taking away everything.
Ed, you are one selfish guy. Ever think about what feeding your gambling addiction will do to your parents?
http://www.gamblersanonymous.org.uk/
Why all of the drama?
Does anyone think that this is going to end in any different fashion as has already happened multiple times in the past?
By the time he re-surfaces, he will have spun up a bankroll, then will bust it, rinse, repeat...
As far as the house....Ed does not see the house as most do. He sees it as a less liquid segment of his bankroll - a segment which ties up his ability to play when he is low or busto.
I personally hoped that Ed would have acquired the home as a way of eliminating various bankroll distractions (constraints of costs of living, time/effort to budget and pay for such expenses...). The fact that the home also gives him a roof over his head, and that as an investment it will appreciate in value nicely in the long-run are added bonuses....
With this being said, you certainly cannot be ignorant enough to not see his talent. He plays a game which most of us are not familiar - hence, offering him poker advice would be nonsensical...
Ed is a truly gifted poker player, plagued by untameable compulsion. Oddly enough, I doubt that he could fully possess one of these traits without the other...
v good post steve =)
Hey Ed,
stay tough, I love your blog.
Would you like to link me, taht would be very cool. I will give you a link too.
Cheers
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it's like someone winning the lottery and then deciding they are good/clever/lucky enough to win it again, by throwing the previous winnings back into it.
never gonna happen ed.
hope you can dig yourself out somehow, whether that's by playing, or more prudently, by quitting.
good luck.
Ed. I have checked in on your blog from time to time and it seems like you're a good kid.
You have played at stakes many of us don't even dream about,won large sums and lost large sums.
But the roller coaster can not continue. you have to assert some control... develop some kind of system that works for you, because normal bankroll management never will.
I have no doubt you will be back.
But try to set a profit/lose margin for the day. If you still feel like playing poker, try to mix in some high stake sngs or Mtts... with the way you play u will be a nightmare when you get a bigstack.
But you gotta try something different or this will end very badly.
Do you know what is the definition of Insanity?
gl.
Islandgrinder
Hi I've been enjoying your blog for a while now but his is my first comment. I was wondering, do you know when you're on tilt? We hear about your wacky tilted hands but never about great play which gets you $50-60K in a session.
Personally I feel that lots of players know how to play poker, and know when they're beaten, but they play anyway. When I'm on a tilt it's usually a relief when I finally blow the last of my meagre roll on a heads up sit and go. I feel it's the same for you but x1000 intensity. Do you need to lows of busto to enjoy the highs? Do you even enjoy the highs any more? I have a feeling we will hear from you again. In the meantime look after yourself and use your money from your house wisely.
Regards
ZC
http://iwasbehind.blogspot.com/
Come on Ed, it's been nearly a month, give us an update! Has the house been sold? Busto? Robusto? We need to know otherwise we'll have to risk our own bankrolls to get some thrills, rather than reading about you doing it.
This is the most degenerate gambler blog I have ever read! Good luck captain and I hope the jew claw doesn't strike you too bad.
There is more to poker than life.
I really like your blog- have to check on it more often. If you are interested in
web-businesses maybe you should have a look at my blog :)
Still alive?
Lmao @ all these people telling Ed how to play, how many BB to buy in for, how he should manage his roll etc.
Hello!? If you're a regular reader you should have learned by now that Ed doesn't give a shit about advice. But whatever, keep the good advice coming if it floats your boat I guess.
So Ed, what's up with the house? Had any good offers yet?
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